In our self-care journey, it’s important to take care of every single one of our bodies (physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual). My next guest addresses this topic beautifully. Dr. Vic Manzo is a business mindset coach, chiropractor, author, speaker, and podcaster. This episode bridges the gap between science and spirituality and speaks to the incredible healing power chiropractic care can have on your mind and body.
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Krystal Jakosky: Hello and welcome to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I am Krystal Jakosky and I am so excited for this week’s episode. I got to chit-chat with Dr. Vic Manzo, who is a business mindset coach, a chiropractor and author, a speaker, and a podcaster. We had such a good time talking. We went over so many different topics. We talked about the fact that there are no rules in life, except the ones that you create. We talked about how he was able to combine spirituality and science in his life. And in his chiropractic, we talked about to be, do, and have, and how we’re all doing it backward. If you switch that around, life is so much better. And we also talked about what the matrix is and how we can improve our life, by using the matrix and using our own visualizations and life. I really hope that you enjoy this episode as much as I did so without further ado, hello, and welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I am Krystal Jakosky, your host, and I’m thrilled to have you here. Not only that, I am thrilled to have Vic Manzo here with me today. Hello and welcome.
Vic Manzo: Thank you for having me. I’m really excited to be here, to dive into our combo.
Krystal Jakosky: Yeah, we’ve already been chitchatting a bit about cryotherapy, so we are going to dive deep into just some fun stuff. We’re going to go wherever the energy and urge the universe sends us today, which is absolutely the way I love to do these kinds of things. So I want to start out, tell us about you. What brought you to this point in your life?
Vic Manzo: Whew. Love this question. Loaded question. Yes. I’ll try to keep this very short. My background is I’m a chiropractor. I’ve been a chiropractor for 12 years. I’ve been certified P for the last little over a year now. And, um, been, but I’ve been pediatric-focused for the last five. So that’s been a passion of mine. Health has always been something that I was very passionate about. Maybe I had a fear of diseases and things like that as a kid. So I wanted to, you know, avoid at all cost. My mom’s a health and fitness instructor and yoga instructor. She’s been doing that police fitness for the last 37 plus years. And she’s always gone to a chiropractor. I went to him when I was a kid, but one thing I was conditioned and thought was that’s what health is because I saw my mom doing this.
What I saw a lot of people doing was supplements, nutrition, and eating well. And then exercise. So I was like great. At 13 years old, I was always told I was a Husky kid. My mom’s like you’re Husky. I thought what does that mean? Like, that’s not overweight, but that’s not slim and fit. So where are we at with this? I never liked that term. And then my wife laughs about it all the time. She’s like your mom called you Husky. I’m like, yeah, she called me Husky. They had they were called Husky. But long story short at 13, I was like, mom, I wanna learn how to have a six-pack. I just kept seeing magazines about this and I want to learn. You said I have a natural belly, which is another thing I don’t understand.
So I told her that I wanted to learn how to do this. So that’s where I started taking supplements. I started doing, changing my nutrition and I started exercising. I did that for six, or seven years. And it was absolutely amazing until I was 19 and I was playing rugby for Arizona state. My health was declining even though my diet was way better than the average college student. I was taking supplements and I was working out really, really well and it just didn’t make sense to me. You know, eventually, I went to a chiropractor, and all of a sudden my whole life turned around and I actually got in the best shape ever, which was weird because nothing changed. So that was what developed me, and I got into chiropractic. Because I wanted to help people, you know, have freedom.
Because I felt like when I saw my own self and when my health was declining, it wasn’t major. I didn’t have a disease or anything, but it was just a lot of knowing things that just didn’t make sense, and to have a disease and have conditions you’re in a prison in some way, shape, or form And I just I felt like I wanted to help empower people and teach them what health was really about. When I started understanding chiropractic, it was just like a whole nother world that I was just like, are you kidding me? I think I found something that’s the basis of what helps an individual thrive because a lot of times in society, we think of that as something physical, but chiropractic is beyond the physical. There are even metaphysical properties to it.
And it’s one of those things where it helps the individual just adapt to their environment better. So that was my passion. But getting to where I am today as a mindset coach, I was always intrigued by or wanted to understand more about why people suffer. Why don’t, why is it that some have nothing and some have everything? Why are some athletes absolutely amazing at something? And why are some athletes absolutely not? I came from a blue-collar family, so I didn’t have a lot of toys. I didn’t have a lot of video games. I had to pay for some of mine. Most of them actually, and I had to save up money to do it because my parents just didn’t have the money. They lived paycheck to paycheck and it was one of those things where I told my mom at 12, I’m gonna figure out this thing called life.Read More
I had a fear of all the finances back in the day. So I studied all the best business people and so forth. And it took me about five years to hit my financial peak. But then there was a point where I was exhausted, burned down, and fatigued. I got to the point where I said, I need to stop learning stuff for a minute here. I need to stop reading 80 to 120 books a year. Either you stop listening to podcasts and videos all day long. I need to just center myself and just focus on what I already know. And let’s just start Digg. You know, if I’m the creator of my life, if I’m the greatest, if I am created in the likeness image of God, I should be able to create my life and success the way I want to do it and experience it rather than being told how it should be like the grind, the hustle, and so forth.
So long story short, I ended up applying these principles and within a year I was working less. I was making more. All of a sudden I was less stressed. I wasn’t burned down anymore. And I haven’t had burnout in six years. And it was one of those things where I’m like, holy cow. And I say, you know what? Entrepreneurs need to know this, business owners need to know this. And so I started to put a little system together of mindset and other principles of what I’ve done, but also how to tailor it, to be so individual to help the individual to thrive. And that’s kind of where I’m at now in my life, that’s what I’m doing full time as we speak.
Krystal Jakosy: Hm there are so many things I want to go back and touch base on in your story, in your life, and where you’re at. You said that as a kid, you had this fear of being sick. Do you know where that came from?
Vic Manzo: You know, I think it was the energy around me. I’m an empath and it was one of those things where I can just feel people’s energy. Here’s an example. The news puts out mosquitoes and the West Nile virus and they talk about what it can do. And every time I got a mosquito bite, I would freak out. I would start to pay attention. Okay. Am I getting dizzy? Am I lightheaded? Am I this and my that? I think it was because I felt like I didn’t have control, you know? And I think that’s where it comes from. Because a lot of my power was taken away as a kid. And so having that, I felt like this was just another thing I couldn’t control. That’s where that whole shift of understanding, okay, what can I control?
What can I do? When it comes to my health, how can I handle this? And I didn’t really get those answers until I was in chiropractic school. Then all of a sudden I was like, oh I got health now. Now I’m not afraid of anything. Now I’m not afraid of diseases. COVID came around and I’m giving my patients advice on certain things. And they’re just like, aren’t you worried? I would tell them once you understand those principles, then all of a sudden, it’s the same thing as spiritual principles. That’s what I love about this stuff is that it’s not just me saying something from a health perspective, it’s also a spiritual truth. I’m losing my train of thought about where I was going with that.
Now darkness and light are what I wanted to talk about. it’s one of those things where yeah, the darkness can’t exist if there’s a whole room full of light. So it’s the same thing in health. If you have a hundred percent health, there’s no such thing as disease, it can exist. It’s impossible and no one’s at a hundred percent, but you can get your chances to be as high as possible you can. And so that’s where it took away that fear, but I really believe it came from not having my power, always being taken away, and always feeling like there was always something going to be, taking something out there because I was so conditioned and used to having that.
Krystal Jakosky: I have a similar experience where I ended up becoming very germophobic. I was containing myself to the point where that was something that I could control. It felt like it just kept burying me more and confining me even more and holding me back even more until one day I recognized what was going on, thanks to a fantastic counselor. And I was able to totally shift that. So I get it when we’re in that space and then something has to happen, something changes and we’re able to learn something new. You’ve talked about chiropractic and how it’s not just physical, it’s spiritual or energetic too. Can we dive into that a little bit more?
Vic Manzo: Yeah. You live your life through your nervous system, right? So everything that you experience has to go through the nervous system. Now everything in life is a vibration of frequency and energy. So when your brain-body is in better alignment, the vibration energy, and the levels of where you are higher, they’re raised up even more. In chiropractic, we talk about something called tone. This is 1895, beautiful new stuff, right? That’s when chiropractic started to exist and the creator always talked about the tone of the Bo the nervous system and that whatever the tone is at that, and basically the way I interpreted how I read it is it is just vibration. Because tone is very similar to that. When you can raise the vibration of the nervous system higher, every single cell and everything else is going to go with that.
Now we all know that when you’re raising a vibration that’s consciousness and even in the early 1900s, I think it was 1908 or 1909 might be in 1905. In the first decade of the 1900s, they said, chiropractic’s whole purpose is to connect God with humans and to realign us to be more in alignment. Now, when you think about that for a second, this is where my coaching comes in. Because I’ve taken this philosophy. That makes perfect sense. Because when we are in alignment with ourselves, with our true authenticity of what we want to create, our soul’s purpose, when we truly have that alignment, our vibration is higher. Our emotions are higher, we feel better and we manifest easier.
That from chiropractic can cross over to there. But it’s one of those elements when you have a higher level of consciousness, there are different aspects of the brain that are elevated. So like the prefrontal cortex, which is right behind your forehead, when you can access that part of the brain and have more wiring go there, you’re calmer. You know you look at someone who doesn’t get affected by the distractions of life. That’s like a Sage, that’s a mystic. I’m not saying chiropractic creates those. Please don’t take it that way. What I am saying is it gives the opportunity. The thing about chiropractic is it doesn’t treat or do anything, in the sense of treating an illness, a disease, a condition, or a symptom, or help you come to a more elevated consciousness.
What it does is give the opportunity and potential to create that. There are other factors you have to add into the mix because chiropractic isn’t everything, but it’s one of those things that give it the ground-rooted support. And if we can keep everything in alignment with the nervous system, communicating properly, no interference whatsoever, that life force that flows through you. In chiropractic, we call it innate intelligence. People know it as the soul life PR, whatever you want or Chi. So all the same thing. What we’re doing is trying to have that intelligence move more freely. And when it can move more freely, you’re going to be able to access higher levels of consciousness, higher levels of information awareness, especially when you tap into that prefrontal cortex, your executive center, that’s our future planning. You can make a choice and then see how it plays out. And you can really tap into those kinds of things. When you have a good, balanced, nervous system, all of a sudden you can see things more in a positive mindset. You can see things more in a way that you’re not going to be so influenced by fear. It’s going to be harder because you’re more resilient to those kinds of things.
Krystal Jakosky: I’m eating this up. Everything you say. So in alignment with so many different things, I’m like, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, I love it. I think we, I, many of us forget that we have that power, many of us forget that we have the ability to tune in and come more into alignment. And sometimes we have no clue how to even do that. You went into chiropractic, you learned about the soul, the energy that she, that PR you learned about bringing all of that into alignment and then you burned out, and then you turned to life coaching and spirituality. What was the chain of events that happened there? What really went on that made you go I’m at the top of my game. Oh no, I’m gonna change course because I’m done.
Vic Manzo: Sounds crazy. Right?
Krystal Jakosky: The face. Right? I get that now.
Vic Manzo: Yeah. So here’s what I mean, after five years I hit my financial peak. I’m doing everything. I’m being told to be a successful chiropractor, family, wellness, and chiropractor. I’m a holistic practitioner and I’m doing all that. I’ve been told, to listen to the best, the top entrepreneurs and business advice and self-help personal development. I’m doing everything that I’m supposed to do. And it was like an uphill battle all the time. I always felt like it’s always something I have to constantly be grinding away at. And it was, I told my wife this is not what we created. We created a practice that wasn’t really what we wanted a hundred percent. I had a coach who wanted to meet people where they are, you know?
So I decided if they are going to come to you, it is your recommendation how to help them. And if they say, Hey, I can’t commit to that, but I can do this, meet them where they are. It’s not your health, it’s their health. And I thought that was great advice at the time. I look at it now and I decided that’s not great advice because if you think about it, if you’re a master at something and you want to learn from the master, if you go to the master, the master tells you, Hey, this is what you’re going to have to do to get to that level. You know what? I wanted to only do half of that because I think that’s just what’s going to work better for me. The master’s going to look at you and say, you know what?
Then I can’t help you. You won’t be a student of mine. And if you go anywhere, if you go into sports, you go to the best person for sports or in any aspect, you either do what they tell you because they know how to get you there or else you’re not going to be a part of their program. And so I was like, why am I leveling myself down to meet where they are? Yet I’m getting frustrated because the results aren’t coming in neurologically, not symptom-wise because symptoms will still help. They would see their symptoms be gone. The interesting thing is once you don’t clear it out of the nervous system, it will show up later in life or it’ll show up somewhat differently. I was just getting so frustrated because I’m so passionate about what I do that I was like, no, no, no, I need to make a change.
So we literally took a 40% hit on our business. It was our choice, me and my wife. We started looking at patients who weren’t following the curriculums properly or struggling with things or just choosing whatever their insurance covers. That’s what they were coming in for. And I say, you know what, listen, we’re going to be making some changes and I really want to help you. I was being very sincere about it, and I tell them if it just doesn’t work, that’s fine. Let me connect you with another chiropractor who’s more lenient on care. We’re kind of making some of these transitions. And so we took a 40% hit and then we also cut our hours from 26, 28 to 18. So all of a sudden we’re doing a couple of double whammies here.
But we turned it around and it was really the big thing for me out of all that was, choosing my success because I was tired of being told what I had to do and what success was. I guess I just got so burned out that it was time to say, I really started challenging myself. I don’t want to say God, but I started challenging myself like the universal law says this and this, these things say this, and spiritually says this. Quantum physics says this, however, I see what it’s going to be. Wayne Dyer and these people and all these things are saying all these things still. I’m not experiencing that in my life. I’m gonna put 100% into that. And it has to be true. My mind should tell me if I put my mind to it. Anything’s possible.
I’m taking everything I’ve learned and I’m going to apply it to this. This is how we’re going to go forth. We shifted to pediatrics six months later. We rebounded back from a patient volume-based standpoint. Then the second year we were back to where we were financial. It was one of those things where success became so much more at ease. I didn’t stress about anything anymore. I was just having fun in the office. I started to understand the principles of how you focus on your intention in your vibe every single day. How do I feel every single day waking up? What’s the energy that I’m bringing to the table? It’s not about what I do. It’s about my being this. And so I started to visualize in my head how I wanted to be, what chiropractor I really want to be every day I would visualize that.
And what does that feel like? How am I walking into the office? How am I talking to my staff? How am I connecting with patients? I mean, I’ve seen 50% of pediatrics. That was my patient base. And it was one of those things where, how am I interacting with the kids? And, just being in this bubble space of love, excitement, and joy and creating a space of healing. And that’s all I focused on. It was a blast for the next six years because it was something that I truly enjoyed. But the key point of why I made that transition into business coaching was because some people ask me if I liked what you were doing, you have a huge practice. You were very involved with the community.
I have a long list of awards and all these other things. My reach was small because in a com I was in a town of 16,000 people. I saw less than one per a 10th of 1% of that population. And I thought where does this reach? And I don’t want to play small. I want to play big in life. I’m going to go all out. And if I fail or I don’t make it, that’s fine. But at least I know that I did that. I tried. That’s where business coaching came in because I was like, I can coach chiropractors. I can coach entrepreneurs. I went into coaching entrepreneurs. I started and now I’ve been coaching chiropractors also. And it’s one of those things where I feel like my reach is just a little bigger. Now when I’m working with an entrepreneur or I’m working with a chiropractor, it’s one of those things where I feel like now my reach is getting a lot more expanded and that’s kind of where that big transition came and, there are lifestyle perks to it too. And all these other things, but that’s kind of the main ones.
Krystal Jakosky: So you have literally lived. One of the quotes that I saw was that there are no rules to live except the ones that you create. You absolutely live that now.
Vic Manzo: Yeah. Do you mean I’m testing it? No, no, no go. I’m sorry.
Krystal Jakosky: No, no, you’re good.
Vic Manzo: No, I’m literally testing that out because it was one of those things where you look at life and just like the observer effect in quantum physics, it’s what the researchers were looking at. When they went to look, at the light particle light wave, the wave part turned into a particle. And every time they were looking at observing, I kept doing that. And so manifest and I manipulate the energy with my mind. There are no rules to live because it’s only what I create because really at the end of the day if you think about it, it’s our thoughts and our emotions and what we put focus on. It’s what we believe really at the end of the day, that can either put you in a prison or it can give you the freedom that you desire.
And we all have the power to choose the one that gives us that freedom. And I didn’t realize that in business, I had so many limitations I was putting on myself and it was but that wasn’t me. That’s not how I wanted to run a practice. Then it came to a point where I challenged what I did in my relationships. I’ve done that with my health. It’s one of those things where I’ve learned that especially like the law of attraction, a lot of people talk about this. And I always tell people that the law of attraction works. It always works. But what I’ve learned is that once I became authentic with myself and what mattered most truly to me, we could talk, about you is your soul’s purpose or what really fires you up, or what has a deep meaning to you when you apply that to it all.
That’s when the law of attraction really works. At least that’s what I’ve experienced in my life. Because I’ve done the whole emotion. I even did visualization with it. And yeah, I would get some results, but when I started to think, no, what really matters most to me, what do I want to create? I say forget the noise. That means not listening to anybody else. Like this is what matters to you. Find people that maybe align with you on that. Sometimes you’re on an island and if you’re on an island, that’s fine. You’re doing something actually amazing then, but it’s staying true to that truth and knowing that you deserve it, you’re worth it 100%.
Krystal Jakosky: I just kind of get goosebumps. I love listening to you because it’s so right on. It’s so spot on it’s so, Hey guys, listen, did you hear that? You have the power to choose what makes you free. You have the power to create the reality that you want. You can visualize it, you can create it, you can live it because you’ve decided to. So this is all about the mindset.
Vic Nabzi: All about all things to come.
Krystal Jakosky: You’re good. All things come back.
Vic Manzo: I was going to say all things come to this: start in the mind. That’s what I was going to say.
Krystal Jakosky: Yeah. See guys, we’re in tune. We got this. We so got this. Tell me about the be, do, have, and how we’re doing it backward. Let’s talk about this for a minute.
Vic Manzo: Think about it this way. I heard about be, do, have when I was in chiropractic school. When I was in chiropractic school, it was one of the best in the world at the time. And it was great. Because the leader, the president, would bring some really prolific speakers and we were mandated three times a trimester to listen to speakers. I was so happy that they did that. One of the things I remember hearing, it’s one of our principals at the school, but I’m going blank right now. But it was something that I didn’t realize I was doing backward. I’ve heard this all my life. I will wait. I cannot wait to have a million dollars if I want a million dollars.
Oh my God, I would do these things. Then I would be happy. Right. Or I can’t wait to have this business because, and I used to say this, I had a small office. My first office was only 758 square feet. It was really small. I kept telling myself, yeah, this is great. I can do things here, but man, I cannot wait to have that big 2000-plus square foot office, then I can do these things. And that is backward thinking because what you’re doing is you’re putting yourself in a trap that you’re going against the grain. You’re going against the universe, how things actually work. The laws work. If the law of vibration and the law of attraction, if they’re really true, you have to be first before you get to the doing and the having.
And so a lot of times people think, I have to have this or that. Entrepreneurs are great for this. Sometimes I work with chiropractors and they’ll I just have to, if I get this next thing, then all of a sudden I can do this. And then I can be that chiropractor that I want to be. I’m telling them, to stop the trap. That’s a trap, you’ll never get there because you’re working backward. There’s a slim chance you can. But it’s just going to take a lot of effort and work and you’re going to go through a lot of sacrifices to get to that point. Now the model is, I was sharing earlier when I was saying I was seeing myself as what chiropractor I want to be. What does that look like?
What does that feel like in visualizing my office, I’m doing the being side of it? It’s just like, I do this in my relationships. What kind of husband do I want to be? Right. It’s not about how my wife responds or what she says or what I don’t care about. It’s about me. Who am I showing up as? What’s the feeling? What emotions do I want to have because then what happens is the more I center her there, I get my vibration to harmonize there. And when I can get there, then when I start doing things, I tell a lot of my entrepreneurs, when you get to the being side, you really hone in on the doing effortlessly. It really is effortless because you’re in alignment. You’ve aligned.
You got to that vibration. Everything is your vision, your focus, your thoughts, emotions, all that is in tune to be in a higher vibe. And all you have to do is just do something when you do it. It’s like, holy cow, this blew up. How the heck did this happen? And I’ve had that happen so many times. I’m still conditioned. I’ll train my clients to say how did this happen? What the heck? Oh no, that’s resistance. Don’t say that. It’s that being element first of who that is. And to share with the listeners, it’s an easy thing you can do. You can just visualize and just see what that is. Feelings. What you’re seeing yourself are the emotions you want to experience in that process. And doing that, like my coaches just tell me all the time, if you want to be this type of chiropractor, who do you have to be?
How do you have to show up? Right? Who’s that been like, how do they think, how do they move? How do they do this? All of these are different processes. And you create that in your mind. All of a sudden you’re thinking, okay, I feel right. because you can’t just think it. I used to do that. I’m a drive type, a driver personality. So for me, it always just thinks it, great, done, got it. But then it’s like, hold up, slow down, take a step back. You have to feel it to make sure it’s right. You have to feel it to know that I’m in alignment now. And there are your emotions always here to guide you. Once you get into the being, the doing is very simple and they just come effortlessly.
I tell people, sometimes I call this effortless success and some people look at me like, what do you mean effortless success? You’ve got to put work in. I say, oh no, you have to get into the law of inspired actions. You have to do action in some form Goliath. David could have prayed. He could have prayed all day to take out Goliath but eventually had to pick up that stone and throw it. But notice how simple, big, old giant, he takes a little stone and just throws it and knocks him out. That is effortless action. Right? Just you, there was a beingness that he was focusing on and he did that. I try to use that as an example, but that’s one of those things where when you look at it, that’s the trap that the majority of people are living in. I thought it was only 26 years and I saw the trap in business at 30 ish. Now I’m at a point where I could pick up on it faster. I don’t need to have this first. I just need to be first and then just stay in this place. And the other side will come.
Krystal Jakosky: Yeah, there’s this, I love it. There’s this concept about how the brain, the subconscious, doesn’t always know truth from reality, right? So if you are visualizing something and you are bringing in every sense possible, what does it smell like to be there? If you are wanting to be in a space where you’re by the ocean and you’re what kind of job you have whatnot. Does it smell salty because of the sea air, what clothing do you feel like you’re wearing? What do you see? What colors are there? What kind of food are you eating? How many senses can you feel, what emotions are you having while you listen to the ocean that’s coming and waves pass? It’s the more senses, every bit of sense that you can bring into that visualization of being, and literally feeling yourself on every level, from your taste buds to your fingertips, to your emotions that are within to the thoughts that go through your mind when you are in that space.
Like every bit of it, if you can bring every bit of it and just make yourself feel that literally, figuratively, it can change everything just because you said I’m going to be that for a minute. And once you are that you love how that feels. And it feels more like you really are there, which makes it easier to do in order to just naturally flow and you’re going downstream instead of fighting. You’re not pushing that Boulder uphill anymore. You’re really just kind of getting, oh yeah, baby, I’m in it. So I love it. And thank you for illustrating that and thank you for talking about it because we forget to do that. We forget to stop and say, oh, wait a minute. And I don’t know that any of us have been taught that we had nobody say, Hey, do it this way instead, visualize where you want to be, feel where you want to be so that you can actually know if you’ve actually seen it in your brain. If you’ve actually felt it with your emotions, it already exists. You’ve created that reality.
Vic Manzo: It’s so true. I love how you got to all the senses, right? Because you want to do that. And you know, I tell people all the time, you can try to see your reality from your physical eyes and from your five senses. Just say, this is my life, but you can also go in your mind’s eye, what we call imagination, and you can create that whole life there. The brain doesn’t know the difference between either. And that is the power of what we know now with what visualization can do. A lot of studies have been coming out and it’s been fascinating to see the different things of just how powerful that is to tap in. Yeah. And get into all those senses. The more neuro, neuro-fi neuro aspects you can fire the more that you’re going to create, that attraction.
And like you brought up too, the feeling where the feelings are great, because then all of a sudden when you’re there, the beautiful visualization is that you’re training your body to feel what that is. Then when you’re making an action or making a choice, you are aligning yourself with that. You’ll get that feeling of some sort. Yeah. And when you have that, now, you know, you’re in alignment. That’s what I try to teach my clients all the time because it’s one of those things you have to get out of your head. I don’t want you in your head. We’re way too logical. We’re way too left-brained. I mean, we’re in an information era, right? Oh, I’ll just Google this, right? Or I’ll just be, but no, that’s not how this works. Do you know?
And it’s where you have to get out. So everything I’m always teaching is outside of the left- brain trying to go into the right- brain. It’s amazing when they get this. I’m like, no, no, no, you just saying, you get this, meaning you got it in your mind. They say, what do you mean? I said you’ll understand. I can’t, there are some things I just can’t explain, but there’s a feeling to it. You’ll know. And then when they finally get there, sometimes it’s a month, three months, five months, whatever it may be, then they’re just like, oh my goodness. I know what you’re talking about now. You see how you can’t explain it with words. So I can understand what you’re saying.
Imagine my side. Trying to explain that to you. I can only guide you in a certain way. And then you’ll just know. It’s like how do you know you’re in love? I just remember I asked that. How do you know you’re in love with someone? Oh, you’ll just know. That means nothing to me. I need to know some factors here. Until it hits you and then you say, oh, that’s what they meant. Okay. I got it now. Yeah.
Krystal Jakosky: Yeah. And it’s absolutely different for every person. Right? So you can tell them, you should feel this, but in reality, they’re different from you. They’re gonna feel it in a
different way. They’re going to feel it in a different part of their body or in their brain or wherever they feel it. But it’s going to feel love is different for every human being and being in that space of where they want to be. You can’t explain that to them. And yet they’re going to know they’re in love. That is so hard to put some of those concepts into words and we end up wordless, which drives us crazy. It’s like a parent saying because I’m the parent. That’s why <laugh> no, I mean, this it’s a good thing. Yeah.
Vic Manzo: I’m a hundred percent with you.
Krystal Jakosky: So yeah. Can we talk about the matrix for a minute?
Vic Manzo: Yeah. What would you like to know?
Krystal Jakosky: Well, what is it?
The first one. So the matrix is a real step. It’s human collective consciousness. That’s really what the matrix comes down to. And for those who don’t know, that’s just all the thoughts, the emotions, and the focus of every single human on the entire planet, of what they’re putting their energy towards. That gets averaged out and becomes the matrix. Now I remember my spiritual journey is to hear people talk about the matrix all the time. Oh, we need to escape the matrix and this and that. I was always like, what the heck is this thing? I love the movie, The Matrix. It was one of those things where as I got older and it evolved more and had more experiences, I started to understand that the matrix is not bad.
It’s just what it is. You know, it’s always going to exist. It doesn’t go away. It’s not just humans that have it, animals have it. And it’s on other planets too. It’s just the average of all the different vibrations and energies. What the matrix does that makes it unique is that if we don’t set the intention on our day and try to continue to focus on our vibe and where we want to be, when you don’t do that, like Benjamin Franklin said that when you fail to plan, you plan to fail. And so what ends up happening is now all of a sudden, the energy of the matrix is going to bring circumstances and situations to you because it’s always there and always existing. There’s something called the lobster effect or the crab effect, whichever one is titled that.
But for some reason, though, I like the lobster. It just makes more sense to me, because I’m used to seeing lobsters in a tank. If you have three lobsters in a tank and one says, I’m tired of this life, I’m hopping out and going to see what’s out there. When it starts to go up the wall, for some weird reason, the two other lobsters are going to grab that lobster and pull it back down. That happens continuously, over and over again, this is what the matrix will do to you every single time. If we’re not aware of this and not only does the matrix have its own vibration, it also has its own conditioning.
So it conditions us in certain ways. And so when you have that whole aspect, if you’re not breaking out of this subconscious and being aware of how you are conditioned and how you’re being influenced by the matrix, then all of a sudden you get pulled into what I call modern slavery, but it’s just a mental prison because now you’re wondering why can’t I achieve this? Why can’t I do this? Why is this happening to me or whatever those resistant questions are because you don’t realize that it’s the matrix influencing you? Now it may not be the main matrix because there are also sub matrixes underneath it, like North America, Africa, and Australia. But then you also have the different states in the United States and you have different towns, cities, you got different family units, friend units, all those get broken down to the most minute one.
The most micro is you. I’m the best for myself and everyone else. And so it’s all this conditioning and layers that are built that build up to create that matrix. It’s always influencing its energy, it is always there because of the law of vibration, and the law of association, these are different laws that will resonate with that vibrational frequency. In my third book, I talk about something called de metronomes. This is fascinating stuff. I highly recommend everyone go Google metronomes it’s M E T R O N O M E S. What these things are is, let’s say 120 things and they just rock back and forth, but they’re random. They make clicks as they rock. And what will happen is, they’re all off beat.
And then all of a sudden, with about a minute and 45 seconds for a minute, 55, it’s roughly around that time frame. They all go and sync and they stay that way. There is nothing influencing it. There’s nothing like it. So it’s kind of freaky in a sense because there’s nothing controlling those mechanisms. They’re just running on their own and all of a sudden they will sink. It is like a tuning fork. If you have a tuning fork in one corner of a room and you have one on the other side, when you strike that tuning fork, there is going to come to a time and place where that vibration and the other tuning fork are going to resonate at the same vibration. That’s kind of how the matrix works in every essence and it’s our job and our role to experience that freedom and the things that you want to truly enjoy and be fulfilled in life. We have to rise above the matrix and be focused on that every single day.
Krystal Jakosky: Okay. So excited. So many little lines going, connecting with each other right now because we were talking earlier and you mentioned how in chiropractic, you felt like you needed to no, it wasn’t that you needed to, you felt like you could ed, as a higher frequency, we were moving everything up a little bit. And if the matrix that is around you is at a certain frequency and we decide to vibrate up, we decide to come to a little bit higher frequency. You also mentioned that we are affecting everybody else around us. So if one person in that matrix says, I’m going to be a little more hopeful, I’m going to be a little more excited, I’m going to be a little more focused on the fantastic life that I really want. Then it’s actually going to affect everyone else around. It’s more than just the ripples on the pond. Then other people are again, attracted to this new vibration and you can all together lift the vibration, the frequency of the matrix that you’re in at that time.
Vic Manzo: Amen to that. Yeah, that’s pretty much it. And this is like in my book, I talk about how I talk about what’s your potential and how to unleash it and, and for your listeners, very simple and easy, whatever you can imagine in your mind is your potential. You can’t imagine something, you cannot see it in your mind. You can’t visualize something and then not be able to attain that. That’s just how things work. But the importance of what you’re bringing up is that if we can have more people lead more fulfilled lives, we do create a ripple effect. This is how we shift the matrix. The people have the power. You’ve heard this many different times when it comes to government versus all these other things.
Right? But when it comes to the matrix, we do, we are the essence and the power of it. What happens is there are players in the matrix because the more eyes and the more people you can get it focusing on something and having an emotional response. The more control you have is how you get to know how politicians work, government works. I’m not bashing, this is not to be getting negative or conspiracy. It’s just that the more eyes you can have on people, looking at something and focusing there, the more that those people influence the matrix. They have more power because they have more influence. This is why people and celebrities do something and it just creates a whole mass ripple effect of how people follow or like TikTok.
There are all these TikTok trends that happen. Why? Well, look at the mass views that will be there 40, 50, 60 million, that’s conditioning. There’s a vibration to that. People say oh cool, we’re going to follow that. But what people don’t realize is even when it comes to presidents and leaders, I always say that it doesn’t matter who the leader is because the leader only exists because of the vibration of the people. So if you want to change what you see in government, if you want to change what you see in a corporation, you can change it. In my third book, I talk about all these issues and issues we have in the world today, where you have massive plastics in the ocean.
We see species being more extinct and forests shrinking like crazy. We have more diseases going on in the world. I said it’s because the total vibration of the matrix is under-supporting life. As long as we stay under that level of supporting life, this comes from the work of Dr. David Hawkins, power versus forest, he talks a lot about this. And under 200 or 204, I think it’s 200, but anything vibration VI, anything at a conscious level under 200 does not support life. And I say the matrix of humanity right now is still under 200. The only reason why I know that is because if you look around, look at how many more diseases are coming out, we went through a pandemic, look at all the species. If we want to change that action, we focus on what we’re just going to do.
You’re fighting something that’s beyond. It’s way more powerful than you. I learned this when I went into chiropractic school because when I went there, I was so mad at big pharma. When I started to see the game, I started to understand what that matrix is and how that’s a controlled mechanism that affects people’s health. And I wanted to fight it like crazy. I realized that I’ll never win. I just won’t. Then I said, you know, what I can do is I can be a role model for that. I’ll live a different life than with the standard Normas. Then, hopefully, people see that and they start asking questions. When they start asking questions, then I can teach. And if I can teach, then they can learn. If they learn, then all of a sudden I can raise their vibe and we can create a ripple effect that way.
So that’s kind of how, when it comes back to the power of us, no matter what that is, if we can change our vibe and raise it up, we raise the matrix and suddenly you’ll see more consciously evolved corporations and businesses starting to evolve. We’ll start to see more solutions that will come out of nowhere. It’s not like we’re not hidden. It can be, but at the same token, they’ll just come out. It’ll be like a new discovery. Oh my God, we have this new discovery. I always laugh. When I hear new discoveries that are good. We’re moving in the right direction because they’re always ill. That vibration, it may not be me. It may not be you, but it may be someone who’s very passionate about solving some problem. And they just couldn’t do it. Then all of a sudden the vibration rises. It gives them the opportunity to create that. That becomes a ripple effect. It always stems back down to us
Krystal Jakosky: On an individual level, did you guys get that? Did you hear that? Are you digesting how this comes down to one person and that one person is you? You can’t change anybody else. You can’t make anybody else do what you want them to do, or be better. You can change yourself and in so doing, attract other people to your new vibration, your new level of life, and joy and happiness. Yeah, let’s do that. I’m already vibing up. We got this, we totally got this.
Vic Manzo: I love it.
Krystal Jakosky: Earlier you talked about light and dark. Can darkness be an ally?
Vic Manzo: Absolutely it is our ally. Life is a contrast. That’s why, as a soul, we come here to this earth university to experience contrast because, in the world, it’s that one-sided coin. It’s always just the light, it’s pure light. There’s no darkness. There are no low vibrations. There are no low energies, no low emotions. If they do get low emotions, they don’t stay around long because we’re in this higher vibration, which is a different dimension, different planes. But when we look at the darkness, and in my own journey, I always try to figure out things ahead of time. So I didn’t have to face the darkness and it’s all in my life. It all seems up to the first five years of my business. Once I hit that five-year mark, I literally said, I’m going to let life teach me.
I’m going to stop learning. I still listen to podcasts. I still listen to videos. I still read books, but it’s so much less than what I used to because what I do now is leveraging the universe or leveraging life. Because if you really understand, we’ve been taught again, conditioning. I’m really big on this right now. We’ve all heard the statement, go chase your dreams, go after it. Right. It’s one of the worst pieces of advice to give, because if you understand this one principle above the law of vibration is that what you seek is also seeking you. Les Brown talks about this when he’s talking about the thing called death, hospital bed or death, deathbed speech, or hospital bed speech.
But what he’ll talk about is when you seek for something that you want to crave for yourself, this idea may be a book, a business or whatever may be, you’re giving that to the person who’s giving life to that. And that wants to live that, that idea, that book, that it wants to have an existence. Now I’m not not saying it’s a living entity. Some people look at me and say that there’s no soul there. Just go with me on this, because Les Brown says this so beautifully, there’s an entity there and it wants to live. So if you’re giving life to that, it’s going to come to you. It’ll come to you and say, okay, let’s do this. Let’s make this happen. And the universe is going to help you with that because it’s going to create situations and people and circumstances to get you to that vibration, to experience that.
But a lot of times it’s one of those things where we know, if we let the darkness in, if when I started to do this, the darkness, all of a sudden, I got more wisdom in one year than I did in the last five. It was just amazing because then all of a sudden looking and going, I keep seeing this pattern show up. This is like the second or third time I’ve seen this. I think I need to focus on this. Thank you universe. I’m going to work on this. What book do I need to read? What podcast do I have to follow? Is there a program? Is there a coach maybe I have to hire, what are the things I need to do to help me get better at this? Or be more aware of this and how can I evolve?
When I started to do that, this is what I meant by effortless action or effortless success. You don’t have to figure it out. Let the universe guide you, let life guide you because it’s so much love that it gives to you. It’s so much that it wants to support you and, and give you all that you can, even when you may think it doesn’t want to support you, it’ll still show you that you’re right because that’s how much it loves you. It wants to support every aspect of what your desires are. And it really took a different perspective on my life. I took a step back. Now, when I work with clients and tell them this stuff, they think that’s genius. I see you. How much less stress you are just thinking about?
Do you realize you have to figure it out? It’s going to come to you. I mean, even with my books, I have a goal of writing 30 books in my life. Now, if you asked me what the stages of that are, I have no idea. It was probably like a month or two before decoding the matrix came to me. What was it? Back in the fall. It was right before I was moving to Knoxville, Tennessee. All of a sudden, I’m the matrix conditioning man. We just went through a ton of stuff with COVID. There was a lot of misinformation going on. And if you spoke outside the matrix of what was being told by the main narrative, you were humiliated, stuff, and it’s not saying that there wasn’t sharing truth or anything like that.
It was just, that you couldn’t share another story. It was the main narrative. And that was it. If you went outside that realm, you were going to get bashed like crazy. This is a prime example of the right decoding, the matrix conditioning. It just came to me and let me get settled in. I’ll start writing my book. In March, or the end of February, I started writing the book and I didn’t have to think about it and I had to try to figure it out. It just came to me. What’s the first chapter, what is the matrix? All right, let’s go with it. And I just went and I wrote this book so quickly, but it was again effortless because I didn’t try to force it. I wasn’t saying, oh, I need to get to this book. I’ve been behind. I haven’t written a book in two years. It just came to me and I wrote the book and it was just cool. So that’s the kind of thing in our lives that we can let lead us. And the darkness is always there to support us. It’s gonna help us to heal on what we need to work on, what it has to help us become more aware of who we already are.
Krystal Jakosky: Yeah. I love your statements about chasing the dream, we’ve always been told to chase the dreams. I just wanted to go back to that and just sit on it for a second, because you’re told to chase it. So if you’re chasing it, how often do you catch what you’re running after, when you’re running after something, the visual is that it’s always ahead of you and just out of reach, and you’re never actually going to catch it. So if you are chasing after something with the belief that I’m not going to catch it, I just have to keep chasing it. It doesn’t get you anywhere other than frustration and depression and the old familiar thoughts, I’m not good enough because I wasn’t fast enough or I wasn’t whatever. If you switch that around and you say, no, no, no, no. I’m going to allow this to happen.
And I’m going to have a mindset being this is going to happen, and I know it’s going to happen. I know that it’s possible. I’m just going to see how it goes. I’m going to raise my vibration to that spot and say, I’m ready when you are. Then the first chapter of a book just pops into your head and says, Hey, this is where you’re going. Now. You don’t have to chase the wrong word. Think about the words that you are using. Are you embracing it? I am embracing my dream. I am moving forward in this amazing thing. That’s here because you’ve chosen to switch that narrative. You’ve chosen to shine a little light in that darkness and say, you know what? I don’t like the idea of chasing. I don’t really like to run. I’m not a runner so I’m not going to chase. I’m going to change that.
Vic Manzo: I don’t relate.
Krystal Jaksky: Yeah. I’m going to change that and say, no. I’m going to sit back and enjoy a little bit of nature and see what happens. I’m going to believe what I already am and see what comes. And that literally shows you the two sides, the lightness, and the darkness. It shows you how you can banish what you really don’t want and embrace what you see and the possibilities in the amazing stuff. I love this conversation. You are so fabulous. Thank you for being here today.
Vic Manzo: Oh, I appreciate that. No, I’m happy to be here. You know, another thing I wanted to mention, is that another aspect about us is we’re spiritual alchemists. I talk about darkness and light, because even whatever you face, whatever darkness that is, it could be trauma. It can be a situation, a divorce, or a loss of a loved one. You even have the power to transmute that energy into something of life. You can choose what that’s going to mean for you because it’s how powerful we are. We get to choose our life in every aspect, you know? And so, that’s something I learned, it had taken me a long while. I learned this. I said you know what? This happened to me. Okay. I realized life has no meaning, except the meaning you put on it once you grasp that, life has no meaning at all, except whatever meaning you put on it.
I mean that from the deepest level. When I first heard that, I realized that life has meaning. I got that. No problem. It’s just what I put onto it. But it took me four years, all of a sudden to go crappy. I thought I knew that, but I didn’t. Now I know what they’re saying. Holy cow, this is mind-blowing. Life is just life until I say, this is good and this is bad or this is great and this is not, or this is whatever it is. I get to choose that and I can, so then I started to learn that no matter what happens to me, no matter what I can always see, I can turn that into a win. I can turn that into an experience. I can turn that to serve me because at the end of the day everything’s always serving you
Krystal Jakosky: Yes. My brain just went blank because we talked about so many good things that I’m trying to process them all at the same time and still keep this conversation going. My mind is blown. Like yours has been. Is there anything else that you really want to share with our listeners?
Vic Manzo: I kind of shared it already, but it’s something that’s been a big message for me that I’ve learned and I’m testing. I’ve been testing this out for the last couple of years and it’s been that no matter what the universe is always there to support you and guide you, there is more support than you can ever imagine. The key thing is, just take a step back and slow down. We’re so rushed in life that even doing nothing is still doing something. And that is something I still haven’t mastered. My wife will tell me you need to learn to slow down even more. I say I’m working on it. I’m getting there. I come from workaholics. So I have to work through conditioning.
I always had to be doing something. I like to do things whatever they may be. But to be able to just take a break and just reconnect and just slow down. Sometimes we need to do more of that and then take that opportunity to see how life is really a blessing for you to see the beauty in life and even the hard times or the hard moments. Look and see how that’s really serving you because when you really take that mindset and shift your perspective to say, okay, maybe this is serving me. Let me take a look. What you seek is what you’re going to find. When you seek for what is serving you, you will find it just as much as you can seek what doesn’t serve you.
You’ll find it there also. So why not choose the one that you can seek, that’s going to serve you and look for that? When you start to do that, you’ll start to have a greater appreciation for life, a greater appreciation for the things that show up in your life. And when you have that, you have more gratitude. Gratitude is the doorway to accepting or receiving more. I got caught in this trap thinking I could just do this and it would be that way. It’s an energy place you have to come from. And when you continually start to do that, you change your neurology around and it totally will transform your life. So look at life as a beautiful journey, rather than as seeing it for how some have been seeing it in one way or another.
Krystal Jakoskky: Beautiful. I usually ask people for a journaling prompt for my listeners at the very end, and this is going to be your journal and prompt guys, take that moment to stop and see how life is actually serving you. You see how there’s that gift, see how it’s supporting you and giving you exactly what you need at this moment. Write it down. Doesn’t have to be a big, long story. It can just be bullet points. It can be single words, but take a moment to reflect on that. I have another question for you. What is your favorite kind of self-care?
Vic Manzo: Ooh, this is a good one. Because I do a lot. We’re talking about cryotherapy. That’s one. My favorite one is I meditate every day in an infrared sauna. That for me. I don’t know if heat is very therapeutic for me. It’s something that just grounds me. One day I’ll maybe figure that out. I don’t need to figure that out right now. But meditation is the biggest thing for me. I’ve been practicing for about 16 years now. And it’s something that allows me just to reconnect with myself. That’s the whole purpose. When I meditate, it’s not about anything else, except just connecting with that essence. That’s going beyond being Vic Manzo and just being there is so grounding.
So always a reminder for me too, to know that this is just a short-term experience. Let’s make the best of it, but also remember the greatness of who I am and so forth. It’s kind of like awakening from the dream in the sense that when I do that, and that’s one of my big ones, I do a lot of things. I exercise a lot. I eat very healthily. There are a lot of those self cares, but if I had to pick one that is the biggest for me, meditation has to be it.
Krystal Jakosky: You’re a man of extremes. You like cryotherapy and being frozen. And then you like the inference on it being super hot. Then you like meditation in the middle. That says, let’s tune out the rest of the world and tune into your own soul. I love it. That’s absolutely beautiful. Hey, how do people find you?
Vic Manzo: So you can find me on my website. It’s my hub. So empower your reality.com. I have free resources there. If you’re a business owner, you want to hop on a call, I can do that. I have a free coaching call, 30 minutes there. If you want to catch me on my socials, go to the bottom left of the website. I’m on Facebook, LinkedIn, TikTok, and Instagram. That’s where I play. I’m sharing daily stuff almost daily there. Just little tips and little snippets of things to help you elevate your life one way or another.
Krystal Jakosky: Fabulous. You guys heard it here. Go check him out. Vic, you are fantastic. And I love your energy. I love how you’re just encouraging everybody to vibe up and embrace life. As they see it becoming something bigger, something more, let’s raise that vibration of the matrix and life will be so much better when we start doing that. So thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing your time and your energy with us today.
Vic Manzo: I was, I was delighted to be here. Thanks for having me.
Krystal Jakosky: Thank you. Okay, guys, you heard it. Go check him out and we’ll see you here next week again on Breath In, Breathe Out.
I hope this moment of self-care and healing brought you some hope and peace. I’m @krystaljakosky on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube and I hope you check us out and follow along for more content coming soon. I look forward to being with you again here on Breathe In, Breathe Out. Until next time, take care.