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66: Learning to Embrace Vulnerability

In last week’s episode of Breathe In, Breathe Out, Judith Costa guided me as I explored my Akashic records. The session was incredibly beautiful and this week, I wanted to expand more on my experience.


Think meditation is hard. Do me a favor, take a slow, deep breath in, and now breathe out. Congratulations, you just meditated. Hi, I’m Krystal Jacosky, and this is Breathe In. Breathe out a weekly mindfulness and meditation podcast for anyone ready to own their own shit and find a little peaceful while doing it.  

Krystal Jakosky:   Welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jacosky and I’m really excited to share this week’s episode with you. I first met Kevin Pinnell when I was a guest on his podcast, which is Award A Better Life. It was such a delightful experience. We had so many things in common that I really wanted to bring him on my podcast so that we could talk about the indigenous people. Kevin began his journey with the indigenous people of North America in the early nineties. He met Ken two feathers early on in that journey, and Ken Two Feathers became more than Kevin’s teacher. They had a wonderful friendship. And 10 years into that friendship, Kevin wrote the book, Two Feathers, Spiritual Seed Planter as Kevin Laughing Hawk, which addressed two feathers life and Native American spirituality. There is so much more to his experience and his life. This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. We’re going to talk about some of the keynotes of Kevin’s experience. I really hope that you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed having him on my podcast. Hello, and welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jakosky, your host, and I am so excited to have Kevin on our show today. Kevin Cannell, welcome.  

Kevin Pennell:    Thank you. Great to be here. This is awesome. I’ve switched roles for a change. I’m not a host. I’m actually a guest. 

Krystal Jakosky:    Oh, isn’t that fun? When you get to switch it up a little bit. Kevin and I have actually been recording right now because whenever we have the opportunity to chat, Kevin and I go off on so many different tangents and so many different realms, and it’s because we are both interested in so many different things. We are always looking for something new to learn or something new to teach, which means that we have a plethora of things that we can talk about and go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. So we’re going to make an effort to keep this a little shorter, meaning not four hours long, because we could talk for hours.

Kevin Pennell:    We’re going to try to focus.  

Krystal Jakosky:    We’re going to give it the college try, you know, the good college. Not the one where you smoke pot for the first four years and then decide to do college. We’re going to actually try to focus. Welcome to my world today. Kevin, tell us a little bit about yourself, who you are and what brought you to my podcast studio.  

Kevin Pennell:    Oh my goodness. Well, if you got about two or three hours, hang in there. It’s just actually been about a year ago that I decided, I’m going to try doing a podcast because for 35 years off and on, I was in broadcast journalism and radio. So I just have a lot of fun with it. And I published a book, worked on a couple of other books, and did some magazine articles. I love to write, but for whatever reason, the publisher just wasn’t impressed. Okay, this is great, but you’re not going to publish it. It’s good stuff, but we’re not going to publish it. And I’m going, Yeah, fine, whatever. And I realized part of writing is you have to be able to accept a little two letter word called no.  

Oh, that’s standard procedure. And I just, in one of those moments, I said, you know, I did broadcast journalism and I did human interest stories for years. I really enjoy doing that, just listening and talking with people about their lives. And literally, I think it was like 3:30 or 4:30 in the morning. That tends to be what I call my spirit time. Some of the most significant little truths that I’ve ever had. The title for the book that I wrote came to me in the middle of the night. And when I wrote that book, I wrote it from five o’clock in the morning until 6:30 every day until I got done with it. But that’s my spirit time. This time it came through as you need to do a podcast called Toward a Better Life.  

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Think meditation is hard? Do me a favor, take a slow deep breath in and now breathe out. Congratulations, you just meditated. Hi, I’m Krystal Jakosky, and this is Breathe In, Breathe Out: a Weekly Mindfulness and Meditation podcast for anyone ready to own their own shit and find a little peace while doing it.

Welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jakosky and holy crap. <laugh> I’m really glad that you’re here this week, and I’m hoping that you listened to our episode last week with Judith Costa. Let me tell you. Oh, <laugh> I needed to do a follow-up on that interview because I need to give you some background and I really need to explain to you what happened in that interview. What happened before leading up and then what has happened since then? Judith does many things. She’s a woman of so many talents, and one of them is opening up your aha records, which is believed to be a place where everybody’s story is written. It’s your past and possible future. It’s everything. And I say possible futures because they may show you a future. But the choices that you make throughout your life are going to adjust and move that a little bit.  

You’re not stuck with what everyone sees as a future, because your choices will change that as you move through life, it’s your path. You get to continue that journey. And there are so many different outcomes. Take it with a grain of salt. When anyone says, I see your future. This whole interview with Judith Costa is also on my YouTube channel and I encourage you to watch it. It was very emotional and it really broke me. Prior to that interview, I was nervous. I was unsettled. I was a little bit agitated and from my work in life coaching and helping people transform and own their shit own what’s going on with them. I know that whenever you are going to shift things, energetically that prior to that, once you’ve set the intention that you are going to make this change and that you are going to seek out assistance to make that change, the universe will send things your way to try to stop it or try to avoid it, make you feel like maybe I wanna do something else say you’ve planned that it’s gonna be on a specific day and you are gonna have all sorts of options presented to you before that day comes options.  

That may be unbelievably tempting, and you’ll have to choose between. Do I really want to do this shift in my life? Or would I rather just put that off for a little while and go do this other thing instead? Or sometimes people have upset stomachs or they have headaches, or they have bad dreams and, and can’t sleep. And oftentimes these experiences people will go ahead and cancel their appointments because they’re really feeling that resistance to shifting this moment. And prior to that interview, I was experiencing these things. I was experiencing discomfort. I was a little bit agitated and frustrated. I was wanting to connect with my team. And yet also personally, just all over the place. I had a headache <laugh> I didn’t feel well. And I was pushing through. I did not realize I did not connect the dots. Even though I tell my clients, help them be aware of this.  

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