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72: How to Release What Doesn’t Serve You (to Make Room for What Does)

Holding on to what doesn’t serve us: we’re all guilty of it. Whether it’s an unhealthy relationship, a grievance, or shame, it’s time to let it go. This week’s episode of Breathe In, Breathe Out is an opportunity to release what no longer serves you so you can make room for what does.


Think meditation is hard. Do me a favor, take a slow, deep breath in, and now breathe out. Congratulations, you just meditated. Hi, I’m Krystal Jacosky, and this is Breathe In. Breathe out a weekly mindfulness and meditation podcast for anyone ready to own their own shit and find a little peaceful while doing it.  

Krystal Jakosky:   Welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jacosky and I’m really excited to share this week’s episode with you. I first met Kevin Pinnell when I was a guest on his podcast, which is Award A Better Life. It was such a delightful experience. We had so many things in common that I really wanted to bring him on my podcast so that we could talk about the indigenous people. Kevin began his journey with the indigenous people of North America in the early nineties. He met Ken two feathers early on in that journey, and Ken Two Feathers became more than Kevin’s teacher. They had a wonderful friendship. And 10 years into that friendship, Kevin wrote the book, Two Feathers, Spiritual Seed Planter as Kevin Laughing Hawk, which addressed two feathers life and Native American spirituality. There is so much more to his experience and his life. This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. We’re going to talk about some of the keynotes of Kevin’s experience. I really hope that you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed having him on my podcast. Hello, and welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jakosky, your host, and I am so excited to have Kevin on our show today. Kevin Cannell, welcome.  

Kevin Pennell:    Thank you. Great to be here. This is awesome. I’ve switched roles for a change. I’m not a host. I’m actually a guest. 

Krystal Jakosky:    Oh, isn’t that fun? When you get to switch it up a little bit. Kevin and I have actually been recording right now because whenever we have the opportunity to chat, Kevin and I go off on so many different tangents and so many different realms, and it’s because we are both interested in so many different things. We are always looking for something new to learn or something new to teach, which means that we have a plethora of things that we can talk about and go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. So we’re going to make an effort to keep this a little shorter, meaning not four hours long, because we could talk for hours.

Kevin Pennell:    We’re going to try to focus.  

Krystal Jakosky:    We’re going to give it the college try, you know, the good college. Not the one where you smoke pot for the first four years and then decide to do college. We’re going to actually try to focus. Welcome to my world today. Kevin, tell us a little bit about yourself, who you are and what brought you to my podcast studio.  

Kevin Pennell:    Oh my goodness. Well, if you got about two or three hours, hang in there. It’s just actually been about a year ago that I decided, I’m going to try doing a podcast because for 35 years off and on, I was in broadcast journalism and radio. So I just have a lot of fun with it. And I published a book, worked on a couple of other books, and did some magazine articles. I love to write, but for whatever reason, the publisher just wasn’t impressed. Okay, this is great, but you’re not going to publish it. It’s good stuff, but we’re not going to publish it. And I’m going, Yeah, fine, whatever. And I realized part of writing is you have to be able to accept a little two letter word called no.  

Oh, that’s standard procedure. And I just, in one of those moments, I said, you know, I did broadcast journalism and I did human interest stories for years. I really enjoy doing that, just listening and talking with people about their lives. And literally, I think it was like 3:30 or 4:30 in the morning. That tends to be what I call my spirit time. Some of the most significant little truths that I’ve ever had. The title for the book that I wrote came to me in the middle of the night. And when I wrote that book, I wrote it from five o’clock in the morning until 6:30 every day until I got done with it. But that’s my spirit time. This time it came through as you need to do a podcast called Toward a Better Life.  

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Think meditation is hard? Do me a favor, take a slow deep breath in and now breathe out. Congratulations, you just meditated. Hi, I’m Krystal Jakosky, and this is Breathe In, Breathe Out: a Weekly Mindfulness and Meditation podcast for anyone ready to own their own shit and find a little peace while doing it.

Welcome back to Breathe In, Breathe Out. I’m Krystal Jakosky and this is just a fun little topic that I have on my mind today. It’s kind of just, you know, it’s a little bit of story time, a little bit of less than time, a little bit of huh? Introspection and shift change. So there once was this old man and he had been collecting rocks his entire life, his family watched as the time went on and this collection just grew and grew and grew. Eventually, the collection took up every spot in that house and he began placing the stones outside while still keeping them close. They were, they were, you know, they were still a part of him, but he couldn’t have them inside. There was just no more space. Eventually, the man was aging and his health was declining a little bit. And the family knew that they needed to do something about this growing collection.

Was there any value in it when dad passes? What do we do with it? Where do we go from here? So they checked in and they asked dad if they could maybe have someone come in and evaluate a collection, dad was like, yeah, sure, whatever. I don’t care. So they contacted a couple of museums and said, Hey, you know, my dad has this unbelievable hoard of rocks that maybe, maybe there’s some valuable stuff in there. We really don’t know. They’ve just, he’s been collecting rocks his entire life. And so maybe there’s something in there that you guys would like. And um, most, most museums were like, no, we’re not interested. But one geologist heard of this collection and was really excited. Imagine the possibilities of these rare stones that have been collected over a lifetime. So he got his assistant and they went out so they could check out this collection.

They arrive, and they start looking. And after two hours of going through different rooms, different areas, and checking outside, he was perplexed. He was really confused because they had yet to find anything of real value. Every stone was a simple rock that one could pick up on a hiking trail or a sidewalk. There wasn’t anything outstanding. There were no real gems or fossils or anything that would make you go, whoa. So he finally asked the man, where did all of these rocks come from? And why do you have them here? Like what’s going on? And the old man’s response was every time someone has hurt me, upset me, or wronged me in some way, I pick up a rock and bring it home. I want you to think about this for a minute. This entire collection of stones was an individual reminder of the pain that had happened in the past.

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